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  • S2_Dave
    S2Forum Addict
    • Aug 2005
    • 456
    • Country: United Kingdom

    #46
    Originally posted by terrybullwon
    I want to stay with a 5 speed box
    With the power you'll be packing how long do you think it will last?
    David

    '91 3B S2 Coupe

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    • terrybullwon
      S2Forum Zealot
      • Mar 2006
      • 8782
      • Country: England

      #47
      Originally posted by S2_Dave
      With the power you'll be packing how long do you think it will last?
      Well i will start sweep stakes in a new thread for that one
      But.... i already have a replacement and another option in mind also!

      Do you have a brake bias now you have them mono's on the rear
      Chef

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      • S2_Dave
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        • Aug 2005
        • 456
        • Country: United Kingdom

        #48
        Originally posted by terrybullwon
        Do you have a brake bias now you have them mono's on the rear
        They're not going to be very big at the rear, only 300x22, so I don't think the bias will need any adjustment.
        David

        '91 3B S2 Coupe

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        • 4WheelDrifter
          S2Forum Zealot
          • Oct 2004
          • 5773
          • Country: Devon

          #49
          There’s no easy way to fit a later 6 speed and keep the ProConTen. The cables just wrap around a boss in the casting on the 5 speed, and a 'box from a non-ProConTen car won't have that.
          I've taken the steering column cable and the two chassis brackets from my car so far, and that adds up to 5kg. I need to save some weight somewhere, as the DSY is ~20kg heavier than the ARV, an is 78kg on my bathroom scales. I can carry an ARV about fairly easily, but a DSY is a struggle to move about the place. If I add the oil cooler then that will add more weight.

          I've always preferred the 5 speed over the 6. I guess I've got used to it over the last 7 years. I'll just have to get used to the notchy shift and the fact that I can't do ~150 in 4th. I must admit I haven't yet driven a 6 speed car without a DM flywheel, so maybe I should reserve judgement on the 6 speeder. The longer ratio might come in handy for cruising on long journeys though.
          SS

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          • Pirvu Eugen
            S2Forum Extremist
            • Apr 2007
            • 1978
            • Country: Romania

            #50
            About the head work..... I saw those water pasages between the holes at the head.
            They do something good, i never saw something like this!
            I am curious!
            Thank You!
            Eugen

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            • topsparky
              S2Forum Fiend
              • Oct 2005
              • 2014
              • Country: United Kingdom

              #51
              [QUOTE=S2_Dave;284767]You've seen it more recently than I have! I haven't seen it Noggy in the flesh yet. The last time I was there it was at the paintshop, so I have to make do with the photos for now. Not long though .


              well david i think when you go to pick her up you'll need to take a towel
              she looks absolutely fecking gorgemus
              the paint it spot on
              the welding on the maf pipe is the best
              welding i've ever seen
              the only problem i can see know is
              you should have bought an avant instead
              so you can sllep in her
              coz your not going to want to let her out of
              your site
              1. SHORT SHIFT KIT
              2. PORSCHE CAYENNE CALIPERS
              3. H & R SPRINGS
              4. BILSTEIN SHOXS
              5. NEW BUSHES AND HP2 STRUTS
              6. UPRATED HIGH OUTPUT COIL PACK
              7. ,3" turbo back s/s/ exhaust
              8. fmic fitted

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              • S2_Dave
                S2Forum Addict
                • Aug 2005
                • 456
                • Country: United Kingdom

                #52
                Originally posted by 4WheelDrifter
                There’s no easy way to fit a later 6 speed and keep the ProConTen. The cables just wrap around a boss in the casting on the 5 speed, and a 'box from a non-ProConTen car won't have that.
                Doh, I thought some early ABY cars didn't have an airbag and so would have the boss for the ProConTen cable. I know the early ABY cars don't have the best of the 6 speeders and the wider first gear can't be fitted in there, but maybe the flexible shaft could be.

                I'm going to stop worrying about the gearbox unless it pops and just concentrate on the weight saving of not changing it. It'll help offset the aircon that I'm keeping . I'm not going to be a member of AOAAC.
                David

                '91 3B S2 Coupe

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                • BRY
                  S2Forum Possessed
                  • Nov 2004
                  • 3755
                  • Home: United Nations Current: Vietnam

                  #53
                  My avant has proconten (self destruct on impact) and is six speed.
                  Kingdoms are run by Kings, Dictatorships are run by Dictators.
                  England must be a Country. :mischeif:

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                  • merlin's S4
                    S2Forum Extremist
                    • Jan 2005
                    • 1539
                    • Country: United Kingdom

                    #54
                    Originally posted by S2_Dave
                    Doh, I thought some early ABY cars didn't have an airbag and so would have the boss for the ProConTen cable. I know the early ABY cars don't have the best of the 6 speeders and the wider first gear can't be fitted in there, but maybe the flexible shaft could be.

                    I'm going to stop worrying about the gearbox unless it pops and just concentrate on the weight saving of not changing it. It'll help offset the aircon that I'm keeping . I'm not going to be a member of AOAAC.
                    What about a 6 speed from a urS4? They have proconten up to '94.
                    '93 S4 Avant now back on the road complete with new shiny go faster bits.

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                    • S2_Dave
                      S2Forum Addict
                      • Aug 2005
                      • 456
                      • Country: United Kingdom

                      #55
                      Originally posted by Pirvu Eugen
                      About the head work..... I saw those water pasages between the holes at the head.
                      They're to improve deck cooling.

                      The ports have had a lot of work, which will hopefully have the GT3071 spooling a bit earlier.
                      David

                      '91 3B S2 Coupe

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                      • S2_Dave
                        S2Forum Addict
                        • Aug 2005
                        • 456
                        • Country: United Kingdom

                        #56
                        Originally posted by topsparky
                        well david i think when you go to pick her up you'll need to take a towel


                        Originally posted by topsparky
                        the welding on the maf pipe is the best
                        welding i've ever seen
                        the only problem i can see know is
                        you should have bought an avant instead
                        so you can sllep in her
                        coz your not going to want to let her out of
                        your site
                        I am very pleased with the MAF from the photos.

                        I am having the driver's seat rebuilt with bigger bolsters so it might be comfortable enough to sleep in if I recline it a little. I could always fold the back seats down and sleep diagonally. Or sleep the other way round a poke my legs between the two front seats. Then I could control the headunit with my toes. I've given this too much thought .

                        Another MAF shot.
                        David

                        '91 3B S2 Coupe

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                        • S2_Dave
                          S2Forum Addict
                          • Aug 2005
                          • 456
                          • Country: United Kingdom

                          #57
                          Thanks BRY and merlin. It seems there are some options out there.
                          David

                          '91 3B S2 Coupe

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                          • Jamo
                            Retired OG Mod
                            • Mar 2004
                            • 21750
                            • Country: United Kingdom

                            #58
                            Originally posted by S2_Dave
                            Chris'? It's not mine. I don't have deep enough pockets for two of these money-pits!

                            MAF into pipework. Corey'll swage the ends next week and then that's another task done.
                            What size pipe is that?

                            Because if it's larger than the original MAf how are you planning on getting around MAF scaling of the voltage as this isn't configurable in the ECU.

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                            • S2_Dave
                              S2Forum Addict
                              • Aug 2005
                              • 456
                              • Country: United Kingdom

                              #59
                              Originally posted by Jamo
                              if it's larger than the original MAf how are you planning on getting around MAF scaling of the voltage
                              That will be for Mark to solve, if it's an issue. It doesn't look any bigger to me, but I'll admit I'm not certain. It wouldn't be the first time the MAF has been fabricated into pipework that's a different diameter than the original housing.
                              David

                              '91 3B S2 Coupe

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                              • Jay
                                S2Forum Maniac
                                • Jul 2004
                                • 599

                                #60
                                I had a 6 speed box out of a ur s4 (i think ) and the pro-con bracket on the box was a bolt on plate metal type bracket.

                                Jay

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